Intex & Jolla

New Delhi-based Intex Technologies is looking forward to venture into the wearables market in India with its iRist smartwatch. Also, the domestic brand will be the first to launch a Sailfish OS powered smartphone called Intex Aqua Fish in September at a price of around Rs 15,000. The brand will also introduce its new interface called iDmos for smartphones. The Aqua Fish smartphone will run the latest Sailfish 2.0 operating system and will be powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 CPU with 1GB RAM and 8GB internal memory which can be expanded up to 32GB via microSD card. Powered by a 2,300 mAh battery, it will support 4G connectivity and sports a 4.7-inch 720p HD display. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/intex-to-launch-smartwatch-and-sailfish-2-0-smartphone-at-mwc-shanghai/#sthash.CDhZxIw5.dpuf

Techcrunch : http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/15/indias-intex-snapdeal-seek-an-android-alternative/?ncid=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29

All in all, a nice pile of messy communication :)

EDIT : even more goodies coming and more info.

EDIT #2 : according to sources at the event, it seems to have a replaceable battery (but the phone at the event is a prototype)

EDIT #3 : "New" SoC seems to account for bigger screen resolution (TBC, 720p)

EDIT #4 : Some sites report the new soc to be Snapdragon 600 SOC, so a 1.9GHZ Quadcore; suggestion of possible ones are snapdragon 410, 615

EDIT #5 : It seems the final device's hw is not the one showcased: http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/intex-to-launch-first-smartphone-running-sailfish-os-20-on-thursday-26574.html

EDIT #6 : New phone model confirmed to be Intex Aqua Fish; no specs yet tho.

EDIT #7: SailfisOS review http://www.thetechbulletin.com/sailfish-os-revived-by-indian-vendors-27111/

EDIT #8: a closer look at the AquaFish Demo HW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KNtpNVqCBE

EDIT #9: a commercial from intex

EDIT #10 : a website of intex'es upcoming sailfish plans; the juicy part of it is the concept art for the Aquafish Phone - Fixed website url

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Another source says the specs are similar to the existing phone :(

Naveen ( 2015-07-15 08:27:14 +0200 )edit

More interesting is the new UI iDMos; but no words on the battery being replaceable... IF the battery is replaceable, we might be getting a better ones for our jphones as well! :D

tortoisedoc ( 2015-07-15 08:35:35 +0200 )edit

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Still trying to wrap my head around this. It's too early to judge, I guess. But it seems that they switched the manufacturer of the original phone and put in a better screen. So this could be seen as a Jolla 1.5.

lispy ( 2015-07-15 09:16:26 +0200 )edit

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The SoC is different tho ; Snapdragon 410 vs the Snapdragon 400 that is in the Jolla phone EDIT : also internal storage on jolla is 16 GB

tortoisedoc ( 2015-07-15 09:20:27 +0200 )edit

I guess the SOC had to be different if they wanted a better screen. I think I read that the current SOC is limited to 540 x 960.

lispy ( 2015-07-15 09:39:16 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-07-15 11:57:44 +0200

jobe-m

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updated 2015-07-16 13:22:51 +0200

Yes, it goes in the right direction. This is a mid-spec phone for the Indian market. No Problem with it. I will wait for a phone with better specs and Sailfish OS.

EDIT: After reading the press release from jolla. Good to know that there is a "scalable reference platform" from jolla supporting Qualcom Snapdragon 200, 600 and 800 in all price ranges!

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Depending on price and availability (in Switzerland), I might get me one. It's too early to say yet.

Venty ( 2015-07-15 14:08:37 +0200 )edit

Yeah, availability will be a decisive factor along with device specs.. I just sold my Jolla waiting for the tablet to arrive and the next high-end phone with 2.0.. So let's wait and see..

cquence ( 2015-07-15 14:27:53 +0200 )edit

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If I can, I'll import the device to me (switzerland).

heubergen ( 2015-07-15 15:10:32 +0200 )edit

@heubergen: Let me know if 'n how you managed!

Venty ( 2015-07-16 12:38:00 +0200 )edit

Just talked to my very nice indian colleague and he promised me to buy me one next time he is on vacation at home ;)

BTW he is curious about the news!

jobe-m ( 2015-07-16 13:16:38 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-07-16 09:06:46 +0200

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Congratulations! And a few questions.

Intex Technologies seems to be an interesting company and a good choice for a licensing partner. Sort of a smaller Indian edition of Samsung or LG looking at the breadth of their portfolio. They offer a huge collection of smartphones.

Questions:

I wonder whether Indian phones generally work with 3G/4G in the USA? This is the most important HW deficit of the Jolla.
Will the Intex Sailfish phone have an FM receiver? At least the Aqua Xtreme V seems to have one (section "Entertainment").
Intex also offers a ridiculously cheap Firefox phone (1'999.- Indian Rupees, about 30.- Euro). How did their Firefox phone fare on the Indian market?
While the price seems cheap for Europe (about 215 Euro without import and tax costs), I wonder why an Intex Sailfish phone should be 30% more expensive than their current flagship phone (11'490.- vs. 15'000.-). Will Indians buy it at this price? I hope it is not the Sailfish OS license that is driving the price up :-) UPATE AND CORRECTION: The Indian EXPRESS talks about a "below 10'000.-" price tag for the Aqua Fish, so that would be in the expected range.]

I am interested to hear what Indian techies think of Intex as a manufacturer for a Sailfish phone.

(Hmm, the main line of Intex smartphones is called "Aqua". I like the name "Aqua Fish" for the new device. Aqua + Sailfish... looks like a match made in heaven :-)

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Yes, the aqua smartphone model line was already in place at intex.Is this just coincidence? Maybe there are already some true fans in the marketing department ;)

jobe-m ( 2015-07-16 18:14:11 +0200 )edit

Intex is the 2nd biggest mobile manufacturer in India apart from Micromax. They generally carry a low price on their phones. Now in India the fight is all about the sub 15 k territory. All the big boys as well the local units are pitching forward their phones in this territory which are selling like hotcakes. Jolla though is well known in Europe it is relatively unknown in India. I hope that this partnership will help them to sell around 1/2 million units (I think this can be achieved) and make it more of a known brand. This can only help the company from progressing further. This will have a fresh UI which can be pitched as an alternative to android and the big plus is that you can run android apps.

dillihifi ( 2015-07-18 17:41:52 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-07-16 12:00:52 +0200

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I can't be the only one who is getting frustrated with Jolla now. We seem to have been going backwards since the start of the laptop project and still no sign that there will be a new version of the phone for Europe. After all the support from Europe for the initial devices we seem to have been abandoned in favour of producing low cost devices for the big developing markets of China and Russia. My patience is running out and I don't even have a date for a tablet.

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Iirc Jolla always mentioned their main targets to be Asian / Indian markets. What's wrong with that?

tortoisedoc ( 2015-07-16 12:05:10 +0200 )edit

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I have a feeling that renovating the Jolla Shop has something to do with the distribution network. So it's easier to sell the devices ment for e.g. Indian market in Europe. But then again, I just hope the phones reach Europe, I'm eager to see what kind of models they are coming up with, especially now that there were no announcements in the Shanghai MWC event.

EDIT: And yes, @tortoisedoc - you are right - or at least I remember the issue being so as well.

raketti ( 2015-07-16 12:11:22 +0200 )edit

Jolla just announced last week that they will spin out the hardware team. That probably means that there is a team working on hardware...

Jolla itself will focus on selling OS licenses and creating the ecosystem. Delivering devices is now up to hardware manufacturers.

Wrt the tablet, Jolla announced that they remain committed to delivering the tablet to backers. Some additional delay might occur due to hardware problems (screen).

bilgy_no1 ( 2015-07-16 18:28:21 +0200 )edit

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I don't think Jolla will abandon the european market. Jolla can't afford to alienate all the european developers by only releasing new devices in Asia. I rather think that this new 'Jolla Hardware Company" will be taking care of sale and support in Europe and other markets that Intex is not yet covering.

Venty ( 2015-07-16 18:46:31 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-07-16 10:43:31 +0200

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updated 2015-07-16 10:45:03 +0200

Jolla's press release announcing the cooperation with Intex.

However they left out Snapdragon 400 ... A typo?

Jolla has developed a range of optimised Sailfish OS hardware platforms from Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 200/600/800 configurations

On a side note, Sailfish 2 is supposed to be released to Jolla phones within a few weeks for the early access users.

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Current Jolla phone runs on snapdragon 400 :) I think they mean they expanded to the other platforms too, which is great!

Yet strange, because SFOS was already running on nexus 5 (snapdragon 800)

Shmet ( 2015-12-18 13:29:22 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-02-24 11:05:24 +0200

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Intex announced: Intex Aqua Fish will come out by April and cost about Rs 7,000 (100 €).

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answered 2015-07-16 14:14:41 +0200

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Mentioning the "reference platform" and no specific hw configurations makes sense in a scenario of more than one device.

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or one where none yet exists ... the Aqua Fish 'prototype' shown was a Jolla with 2 plastic covers fixed to it ...

midnightoil ( 2015-07-16 16:43:27 +0200 )edit

Could we suggest , that this Aqua Fish could to be the ex-next Jolla, abandoned with the new strategy dedicated only to software development ?

Could its hardware (MB + Screen) reused in the case of our Old Jolla ?

Nokia7710 ( 2015-07-16 23:38:49 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-04-26 11:00:01 +0200

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April 26TH, no news yet!

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answered 2016-04-28 08:37:31 +0200

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I think the turing phone or fairphone2 will come before then intex sail fish.

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answered 2015-07-18 09:56:32 +0200

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updated 2015-07-18 09:56:56 +0200

Interesting, so there is a device running sfos2.0 with a smapdragon 410. so basically a second phone ?:)

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I highly doubt that, since the SFOS 2.0 is scalable to Snapdragon models 200, 600 and 800. So, my guess is that the SoC model given is wrong, or at least it's not what will be used in a released device. I should have mentioned that when editing the question, sorry.

raketti ( 2015-07-18 10:05:04 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-02-01 12:10:16 +0200

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Intent phone running Sailfish OS will be announced during MWC 2016:

https://together.jolla.com/question/125804/intex-aqua-fish-running-sailfish-20-to-be-released-during-mwc-2016/?sort=votes&page=1

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Have you been able to find an official announcement yet?

JoHe ( 2016-02-07 21:25:23 +0200 )edit

Currently , the page http://www.intex.in/intex-sailfish-os/ returns 404 error.

EDIT page OK (unchanged) one hour later.

objectifnul ( 2016-02-08 19:43:07 +0200 )edit

@objectifnul

The url was wrong at first. If you miss the www it redirects to tex-sailfish-os (without in). But at the time- and with the url you posted it worked. I guess you just didn't test with it. Just to clarify...

CLR64 ( 2016-02-09 14:21:16 +0200 )edit

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