Anyone happy with Jolla here?

yes you're right. people who don't have problem, don't speak about "it" or rarely

I'm happy for the most part, and agree that people only go on here to post issues - that's what its for after all. People don't go on stackoverflow to say how easy and great programming is!!

Actually, that's the point. On the contrary, if you look for an artist X and a song Y on Youtube, you will find that all the comments (apart from a pair of trolls) are praising that song as the best of all times.

If you are looking for an impartial opinion about a song, don't read its Youtube's comments. If you are looking for an impression of how happpy is people about a device, don't read a web designed to talk about bugs and requested features.

??? sorry but it is not a song. find the comparison a little bit clumsy... maybe it is possible to organize the whole (eco)system to have the same reaction of the user like the reaction that you described. but currently it is not organized in this way. i don't think that it is impossible. the question is, if it make sense to jolla to have it.

@cemoi71 I was talking about "perceived reality". If you judge the quality of a device by reading a bug report site, you will end getting an unreal "badness". If you judge the quality of a song by reading its comments on Youtube, you will end getting an unreal "goodness".

Couldn't agree more.

While i understand, that they need Android Support for a growing user base, but id wish they would concentrate more on the opensource OS itself rather than non free Google stuff.

To be more specific, I appreciate the Android compatibility without the Google Play Services.

Agreed. I picked a Jolla because I didn't like Android and iOS and my beloved webOS was dead. I wanted a Linux phone and Jolla is just that. I like how I can use nmap and ssh on the go. The price is very good for what you get. Continous updates, engaging community, many cool apps and if you need it the option to use Android apps withouht PlayStore. If I would be granted one wish I'd like a better display. If I had two wishes I'd like to get rid of the transparency. But that is it. Apart from that I'm very happy with my Jolla.

I too chose Jolla to get away from Android, especially the baked in tracking and profiling that Google does.

Given this issue, I have no problem using Android apps on Jolla. I don't have Play Services installed, so I just get the app functionality without Google interference.

Yes, I also have the Jolla since 2013, and it amazes me how the experience keeps getting better. The worst bugs have been fixed, and it's a very stable phone by now. New functions are still being added. Slowly, but steadily, this is growing into a mature system.

It is important to realise that Jolla are taking a different approach to development. Jolla released a phone to the general public at a dev stage when most companies would only use some in house testers. It was even released when the OS was officially still in beta! The idea was that this could speed up development because of mass user feedback, and of course raise some cash while testing the market potential.

I'm not sure if this has actually resulted in a quicker development (impossible to know), but at least it was an interesting journey to be part of a an early adopter. That also holds some value for me.

Sailfish 2.0 should be the release that's mature enough to start licensing the OS to manufacturers. This is where I'm a little anxious, because there are still some rough edges and missing features. Jolla also lifted beta status while there were still a lot of problems, and this created some disappointment with users who didn't understand the special development strategy of the company (and who therefore expected a fully functional experience).

Myself, I'm pretty relaxed about not having the latest app/service/feature available on Jolla. If Jolla can interest manufacturers who will start contributing to the code, speed will pick up and new features will follow.

Disclaimer: I do have an Android phone for work, so this is where I can do e.g. mobile banking with official apps.

t's a very stable phone by now

Really? How about the multiple reports of people not being able to answer an incoming phone call on the phone because they cannot get access to the pulley menu then? I'd suggest that being able to reliably answer a call a pretty key function of a mobile phone.

Hi, I like the phone as well. The hardware is fine, the software runs great compared to most vendors' phones. Yet the release of certain buggy features, is very annoying. I would even pay for a good stable release with fully working apps. I have not really modified the phone or done special changes. Yet it seems as buggy as some linux-distros are. It would be great if sailfish os could be an open-source project which proves open-source, usability, stability and secure privacy can coexist in operating system. It doesn't have to be Apple to be user-friendly. It doesn't have to be Microsoft or Android which allows you lots of apps. It can be open-source or just linux to work well out-of-the-box. But the money would have to be better for Jolla and if you consider to make major releases with additional features, which will definitly work, then you could also charge money for that. But maybe this will all come and I just have to stay frustrated for now, when the screen is not reacting to input, when someone calls sometimes or that the MfE app is not syncing correctly. Hope, it's gonna get better and not die like a lot of operating systems, because the idea is really good. The competition is probably just very tough.

Keep working Jolla, I like your idea. But the reality is pretty sobering at the moment. Thank you for your work. Hopefully, things get better when this damn tablet release has finished.

One of your supporters!

@gusvoi As discussed in another thread, maintaining another, "stable/bugless" branch of Sailfish is too much work. But you know, the OS gets better over time. Just wait ;-)

@gusvoi Unlike Android or iOS, Jolla had only become more stable and faster over time ;-)

It amazes me how fast the phone starts apps with the latest update. This is on ancient hardware, and it still improves...

By contrast, my Android work phone received a patch for stagefright this week and has been buggy since... It is getting performance issues six months after the latest factory reset (needed because of another update).

So, I'm quite impressed that Jolla improves the performance still two years after its release.

This is not to say that it's perfect and bug free, but this is what tjc is for.

This. The UI went to hell in 2.0.