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Jolla 2nd device HW suggestions. [not relevant]

asked 2014-01-25 12:04:46 +0300

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updated 2015-08-12 11:42:11 +0300

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While it seems really early for something like this its good to start submitting ideas early so that the designers can think about it.

So what features do you want for the next Jolla Phone? Make sure to look through the previous answers and vote accordingly


The first thing i'd like is to make the bezels all around the screen smaller. As small as possible in fact. This will probably make it a one-hand-device for more people. I have normal hands (i think i am in the 50th percentile) and it feels a bit big in the hand.

No need for a bigger screen. 720p would be good but even at qHD it looks really nice.

If possible move the headphone jack on the bottom of the device.

Also i wouldn't mind if it was a bit lighter.

Possibility of screw attached metallic TOH for a more sturdy feel along with easily replaceable plastic ones for people who like to change them easily would be a great addition.

USB type C (the reversible one) is something jolla must consider.

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even at qHD Much as I like my Jolla, I have to disagree. It is pretty clear that the interface was a higher resolution - for example the skinny font used on the launcher pages is often blurry on qHD.

strongm ( 2014-01-25 12:23:36 +0300 )edit
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Also I suspect that the choice of SoC forced on Jolla when ST-Ericsson decided to stop manufacturing or supplying the original choice of SoC is the reason behind the low-end display (the maximum resolution the current SoC supports is qHD). A higher specced SoC should mean we can get a better screen.

strongm ( 2014-01-25 12:24:24 +0300 )edit
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A bezel is needed to hold the phone comfortably and safely in one hand without accidentally touching the screen with some flesh of the hand. A thinner bezel wouldn't turn out good, I suppose. The thinner the bezel the more slippery the phone feels, because you have less place to hold it.

pycage ( 2014-01-25 13:11:20 +0300 )edit
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@pycage

They will of course need to prototype and test a lot in order to get the thin bezel right.

ApB ( 2014-01-25 14:18:18 +0300 )edit
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i would not mind smaller phone. n9 was nice form factor.

mike7b4 ( 2014-01-25 14:58:48 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-06-28 18:27:59 +0300

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The phone should be slimmer when TOH does not provide any real value and is just a cover.

I like the idea of TOH! And I am happy with the fact that my phone grows (much) thicker when I add a keyboard or a huge battery pack with TOH. But if TOH is a simple cover it should be as slim as possible. The form and snap-on mechanism of TOH should be redesigned so that a simple cover does not take up so much space.

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answered 2015-04-23 21:59:22 +0300

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For me critical is screen brightness. All my friends with iphones and most android devices just walk outside in a sunny day and use their phones, I have to try to make some shadow using hands to see anything. It is a shame. Phone seems to run out of memory quite often - so more RAM. Occasionally the GUI slows down as well, so faster processor would be a natural development. I would buy a new jolla for this 3 reasons. The rest is fine (or can be done by software).

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Problem is not just the Display, but the dark UI wich leads to max reflections.

michel ( 2015-04-26 16:23:12 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-08-20 20:54:32 +0300

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updated 2014-08-20 20:54:32 +0300

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For me, the Dimensions are perfect. So the next Phone should have the same, only with a 4.7" Display with 720 or 1080p. It should be a bit lighter and the corners a bit rounder. a Quad Core CPU with 2 GB RAM louder speakers a better and faster prime camera a bigger Battery USB host is a must have for me! i dont need volume buttons! please Jolla, we dont need a minimize app swipe from the left and the right. i prefer a 'action center' from one of the sides. this could be a perfect place for volume or toggles for Bluetooth, wifi... ok, this are my ideas :)

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I like your HW suggestions!

torcida ( 2014-08-20 22:06:50 +0300 )edit

Add 802.11ac dual band chip and gamepad compatible bluetooth (ps3 sixaxis)

DarkWhite ( 2014-08-21 17:43:51 +0300 )edit

There should be a possibility for sixaxis using the terminal... I got it working with the N9.

torcida ( 2014-08-25 22:34:08 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-09-09 20:45:58 +0300

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updated 2014-09-17 23:56:19 +0300

It would be nice to have an camera like the one developed by Pelican Imaging. That is one unlike camera!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JovK9-Ig0Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMPfRR4gHTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twDneAffZe4

Bonus video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNFARy0_c4w

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answered 2015-04-21 22:50:58 +0300

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updated 2015-04-22 13:28:57 +0300

Pocket friendly corners

I would like the corners to be somewhat more rounded and friendly to pockets. This is what a pair of jeans looks like after some time with a Jolla in the pocket:

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I have the same with Sony W880i, Nokia 6210, Nokia N900, Nokia N9 and so on... my keys and my cigarettes do the same btw...

chemist ( 2015-04-22 15:33:34 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-04-23 16:39:46 +0300

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Displaying something on the edge to enhance gestures (by make it an actual screen) could be a good Idea to make the gesture based sailfish style better, took an hour to create a concept to see how it could look like

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(my textures are ugly I know, I hate doing textures usually ^^" but I the end it give an Idea of what I'm talking about)

Here create a notification view with the edge but I think this is not the best Idea...

  • A task bar with a gesture like pushing the app into the screen could make the multitasking faster and easier...
  • Another Idea can could be to have a
    preview of the app on the edge and
    use it like an alt-tab.
  • A last Idea I had too is to use those edge to bind the gesture up/down with the cover of two other apps that are running in background (I imagine changing the music by pulling down the right edge while reading a pdf). That can be a huge improvement for the multitasking !

Well all this text to say: those edge can make a big improvement in the gesture style and the multitasking note: I create a "sharp" style to make it looks different than the first jolla and keep the other half with same proportion with the Idea to keep it compatible with the previous other half

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i like that idea, but it must be payable

evo3de ( 2015-04-23 17:21:57 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-02-05 18:43:40 +0300

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updated 2014-02-13 11:10:34 +0300

In case someone designs a concept/mockup etc please post it here. :)

Because boredom: image description

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In my opinion, USB should be on the bottom, headphone jack on top. USB on top is strange if you call while device is connected to charger. This is also misdesigned for me on actual Jolla.

SaimenSays ( 2014-03-25 00:30:55 +0300 )edit

It looks nice(ish), but there's little purpose for a bottom bezel on a Jolla phone. Much better idea would be to eliminate it and have a bigger screen (but overall smaller packaging). Also, if new customers are to be attracted, unless selling the phone for $150-200 (max), then a 1280x720 4.5" screen isn't going to impress many people. Current phone suffers from a terrible screen, underwhelming specs and a too-high price point relative to these considerations.

midnightoil ( 2014-08-23 20:27:14 +0300 )edit

@midnightoil

It was just 10-15 minutes playing around. Didn't spent an enormous amount of time trying to make it perfect or sort out all the details. 1280x720 gives a DPI of 326ppi which is quite ok for the human eye , doesn't have to break the bank and kill battery to drive it. And i don't feel like jolla should go after specs (big numbers). The experience is where it's at. And quality. It should feel like you can throw it through a wall. As for the bezel (bottom) you can't have the screen too low (it creates reach problems) and if you use a bigger screen (keeping the same aspect) you have to make it wider which will make it feel bad to in your hand. Also there is a good place for a notification LED.

ApB ( 2014-08-24 13:21:37 +0300 )edit

Hm, maybe you should also try to keep the half-half look from the current device? It's kind of a signature design feature already :)

lhorga ( 2014-09-30 04:15:40 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-08-25 12:56:04 +0300

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bluetooth LE and ant(+) would be nice to have for all those health devices (heartrate monitors and such)

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In theory if we can get an updated kernel in the current phone (LE needs 3.5 AFAIK) we can have it. I think i read somewhere that they ported the patches back but no idea if jolla is working on it.

ApB ( 2014-08-25 13:10:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-09-12 03:08:22 +0300

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My suggestions:

  1. Better loudspeaker
  2. At least 720p screen (4.7 - 5", with better sunlight readability)
  3. Better main (!!) camera (resolution of 8MP is fine, but please use better optics/lenses and a bigger sensor)
  4. Better microphone
  5. Bigger battery - at least 2500mAh

Maybe it should have 2GB of RAM and a faster CPU and GPU, but in this case you (= Jolla) should decide what fits best to the upcoming versions of Sailfish OS and how many power it really needs.

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answered 2015-02-04 15:36:20 +0300

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Size of Jolla is perfect for most adults. But the sound is not. Speakers are not good enough and the sound volume of my Jolla is too low for using the phone as satnav. With the most high volume we cannot hear Here in the car. Also we cannot hear our phones when we are in outside, in the city. It's a shame.

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Tip: the ringing can be made louder by changing the nice default Jolla-ringtone by simply choosing some loud piece of music from your music collection.

JoHe ( 2015-04-24 18:37:49 +0300 )edit

Thank you Jotte. Unfortunately we (husband and me) have zero music and only the Jolla ringtones on our phones. I try for seven months to download music, but no result. Nothing appears in Media, Daedalus or Quasar. We watched Youtube videos about this subject, but nothing works on our phones. Changing the default ringtones was my first idea too, but its impossible. No files. I have one track on my clipboard now (url) and it can play from my clipboard, but nothing else. Makes me so frustrated.

K and J ( 2015-04-26 15:18:12 +0300 )edit

You could try to refresh media database with Sailfish Utilities found in Jolla Store. Another option, if you have lot's of media in your device or SD card, is to

  1. remove your media files (backup them first!)
  2. Restart Jolla and insert now only the single music file you want to start using as ring tone. It should now appear immediately on your media player and elsewhere.
  3. The bring back your other media files, but maybe in small portions – and hope your media file indexing will not be choked.

You can download ring tones for example from Jamendo or Magnatune.

JoHe ( 2015-04-26 21:20:34 +0300 )edit

Thanks for the suggestion. However, the problem is not how to find music, it's a tech problem with my phone (and me). Nothing happens with long pressing on a subject, nothing comes in Media. Also nothing happens when I search on my phone and try to download. But yesterday I found a way to download mp3 files: first I download it on my computer and than I transfer it with bluetooth to my Jolla. This is the only way so far (7 months) to get music in Media. I am happy to have a louder ringtone now. The transfer between Media and Settings works fine.

K and J ( 2015-04-29 14:54:09 +0300 )edit

Thanks, JoHe. Finding music is not the problem, it is a tech problem. Nothing happens, when long pressing on a subject. Nothing comes in Media. But since yesterday i finally found a way to download Mp3 files: first download on computer and than with bluetooth transfering to my Jolla.

K and J ( 2015-04-29 14:56:59 +0300 )edit

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