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Jolla 2nd device HW suggestions. [not relevant]

asked 2014-01-25 12:04:46 +0300

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updated 2015-08-12 11:42:11 +0300

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While it seems really early for something like this its good to start submitting ideas early so that the designers can think about it.

So what features do you want for the next Jolla Phone? Make sure to look through the previous answers and vote accordingly


The first thing i'd like is to make the bezels all around the screen smaller. As small as possible in fact. This will probably make it a one-hand-device for more people. I have normal hands (i think i am in the 50th percentile) and it feels a bit big in the hand.

No need for a bigger screen. 720p would be good but even at qHD it looks really nice.

If possible move the headphone jack on the bottom of the device.

Also i wouldn't mind if it was a bit lighter.

Possibility of screw attached metallic TOH for a more sturdy feel along with easily replaceable plastic ones for people who like to change them easily would be a great addition.

USB type C (the reversible one) is something jolla must consider.

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even at qHD Much as I like my Jolla, I have to disagree. It is pretty clear that the interface was a higher resolution - for example the skinny font used on the launcher pages is often blurry on qHD.

strongm ( 2014-01-25 12:23:36 +0300 )edit
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Also I suspect that the choice of SoC forced on Jolla when ST-Ericsson decided to stop manufacturing or supplying the original choice of SoC is the reason behind the low-end display (the maximum resolution the current SoC supports is qHD). A higher specced SoC should mean we can get a better screen.

strongm ( 2014-01-25 12:24:24 +0300 )edit
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A bezel is needed to hold the phone comfortably and safely in one hand without accidentally touching the screen with some flesh of the hand. A thinner bezel wouldn't turn out good, I suppose. The thinner the bezel the more slippery the phone feels, because you have less place to hold it.

pycage ( 2014-01-25 13:11:20 +0300 )edit
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@pycage

They will of course need to prototype and test a lot in order to get the thin bezel right.

ApB ( 2014-01-25 14:18:18 +0300 )edit
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i would not mind smaller phone. n9 was nice form factor.

mike7b4 ( 2014-01-25 14:58:48 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-08-18 15:24:50 +0300

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3.5 - 3.9" OLED screen (no pentile matrix!) with maximum resolution of 1280x720. Approximately same size than Nokia N9. More roughness to back side that it's not so slippery on hands.

Big user replaceable battery. Thickness is not a bad thing.

No TOH support because of smaller size.

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answered 2015-08-13 06:57:33 +0300

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Digital video output is a must.

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answered 2015-08-13 02:27:45 +0300

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I really like the current Jolla, but I got some concerns which can improve the next one:

  • It needs some more power. Sometimes it takes ages to open an app on the current phone and it runs out of memory quite fast. The multitasking experience would be much better with faster hardware. Still, this needs to be balanced against:

  • Better batterylife. I hardly manage day of moderate use on my Jolla. Maybe part of this could be solved with:

  • A better screen. As some has pointed out, you need to turn the brightness up to max if you want to have the slightest chances of using your phone outside. Better resolution wouldn't hurt either, and the size of the screen itself could be bigger (without expanding the body of the unit, which is spot on).

  • Better speakers. I got quite a few missed calls just because I couldn't hear the phone.

  • Better (more clear) privacy settings for apps, like a way to toggle of the ability to find my location.

These are my main concerns. Get those right and I'm sure to stay onboard! :)

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answered 2015-08-12 19:03:47 +0300

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My suggestion is a hifi system. Xiaomi e.g. offer a smartphone with a hifi-system. I am a music enthusiast and I wish for the next phone such an equipment. And DLNA and aptX would also be great.

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Always, but do you know about the Marshall phone? Hardware is what makes the difference in this rare case! http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/16/marshall-london-music-phone/

chemist ( 2015-08-13 01:45:22 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-08-12 17:29:29 +0300

cemoi71 gravatar image

Wysips technology: a discret solar energy & Li-Fi connection for next product generation

could be really interesting

https://together.jolla.com/question/94215/wysips-technology-a-discret-solar-energy-li-fi-connection-for-next-product-generation/

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answered 2015-08-12 15:26:10 +0300

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  • Slide-in keyboard á la n900
  • big screen (bigger than n900)
  • alluminium body
  • other half support (on slide-in keyboard)
  • AMOLED display (n9 ftw forever)

Ill add more later :)

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answered 2015-08-12 14:49:36 +0300

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updated 2015-08-12 14:51:25 +0300

I think the next Jolla phone must be equipped with at least all sensors that are exists in Jolla phone 1 (proximity, accelerometer, gyro, e-compass, ambient light) and Hall sensor to use with covers (as in Jolla Tablet).

IMHO availability of the atmospheric pressure sensor make sense only with software that warns of the possibility of rain, and other weather changes

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answered 2015-08-12 11:13:32 +0300

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updated 2015-08-12 11:21:47 +0300

Supposedly I'm not allowed to start my own thread about this, how extraordinary. Shame, that means I won't be hanging out much at TJC. I was considering upping my presence much more, & gradually becoming much more of a contributor/helper. Anyway, here's what I had in my original thread...

Originally I had asked 2 Jolla employees this Qn directly in a non-official site:

You guys should srsly consider making your next phone phablet size i.e. approx. 5.7". There's a tonne of Galaxy Note neckbeards who are about to be alienated from Samsung over the next 12mth. Samsung has decided to go the "Apple way" & remove mSD, removable battery, & also go with a more premium but fragile build-quality.

Thanks to your Tablet efforts, you would be much better prepared for a large Phone. In a masterfully crafted crowfunding initiative, you should pitch WQHD/QHD display (leave it for you to decide on LCD or OLED), the fastest possible built-in NAND (UFS 2.x or at least the latest/greatest eMMC), & the latest/greatest mSD standard.

SoC will leave to you guys, x86 or ARM, preferably ARM, but x86 has (slowly but surely) been getting increasingly competitive. And ofc it should be a "world-phone", compatible on as many cellular bands as possible, & uses the latest/greatest cellular standards.

Then you should add just 1 perk: "Active Digitiser" i.e. like the Note's S-pen*. I wouldn't add any other perks, as that's more than enough to focus on & "get right". You would of course keep "TOH" feature, but it may have to remain as neglected as it was with the J1 (i.e rely on the community to step-up if/when it can), but you'd probably upgrade it's interface as I2C's too limiting.

Longer term you'd also try to implement a "Continuum" feature, like we're seeing coming to Win10Mobile & a similar implementation coming to UbuntuTouch (i.e bridge the divide between Mobile & Desktop), but that may be beyond your meagre resources.

Reading between the lines there's very little money left for your device making business, so you'd probably have to rely almost entirely on a well crafted crowd-funding initiative, one which avoids promises/user_expectations jumping too far ahead of what you can deliver. The core specs I've suggested aren't "pie in the sky", especially if we're talking about a phone that's not shipping till this time next year -or later. Whaddya think?

*MS is also expected to release a Phablet device in Nov/Dec this year, it supposedly uses a digitiser very similar to the Surface Pro 3 i.e. "excellent"

So now that it's been posted in "official" channels, lets see if we get some professional feedback. To be clear, there's no expectation of a detailed response about your plans for a J2. Just a brief: "Yeah maybe that'd work -it's noted" or, "We don't think that'd work -here's why" etc.

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answered 2015-04-28 17:46:49 +0300

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The hardware keyboard like N950... Today, in France, there is no more phone with keyboard, however, I know many people who search a phone with keyboard... They are not interesting by SailfishOS, but if a phone with this feature will exist, it can be the bigger argument to switch from android to Jolla !!!

I repeat, today, there is no more phone with a keyboard, but, the need exists !!!

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answered 2015-04-23 21:59:22 +0300

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For me critical is screen brightness. All my friends with iphones and most android devices just walk outside in a sunny day and use their phones, I have to try to make some shadow using hands to see anything. It is a shame. Phone seems to run out of memory quite often - so more RAM. Occasionally the GUI slows down as well, so faster processor would be a natural development. I would buy a new jolla for this 3 reasons. The rest is fine (or can be done by software).

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Problem is not just the Display, but the dark UI wich leads to max reflections.

michel ( 2015-04-26 16:23:12 +0300 )edit

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