Jolla 2nd device HW suggestions. [not relevant]

answered 2014-08-28 12:53:17 +0300

Matl
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1. 64 bit
2. Quadcore or higher
3. 4Gb RAM
4. NFC

and of course the same connection pins for the other half than in the first Jolla phone.

answered 2014-09-09 14:56:38 +0300

Marti Masa K
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I like many of the proposals here but I highly recommend not to go into quad- or octacore-SoCs and the race Samsung and others do! The reason is that this does not benefit the usage of the phone in terms of performance vs. usability. There are a lot of publications on this topic. Simply more cores does not equivalent to more power! Furthermore, the increase of the cores has an negative impact on the battery life. I'm sure a moderate increase of HW-performance would be very welcome also more RAM will help for sure. Another related topic is that many of us would like to have the best possible screen-resolution. Have you also thought about that the higher the screen resolution the worse it that for the battery-life-time as well?! I'm my opinion the current screen-resolution is okay. Surely no one wants to go back to this limitation which Symbian had - the screen-resolution was the big issue there. For the next Jolla an optimum could be found but what that optimum is - I have no answer to that.

My recommendation for second Jolla: 1. An OLED-screen enabling LPM such like the N9 has would be pretty awesome! I hope the're isn't a problem with former Nokia- (now M$FT)-patenting to this??!! 2. PLEASE KEEP THE SAME FORM-FACTOR - I WANT TO USE MY CURRENT THOs ON THE NEXT GEN AS WELL 3. I love the current design - it should be similar! 4. A SoC which allows FM-transmitter'/receiver as the mighty N900 had...I know but even some Lumia's with Quallcom-SoC do have that feature...please add an FM RX/TX!

Cheers, Ma

answered 2014-09-29 00:37:02 +0300

bilgy_no1
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In terms of specs, I'd like to see a 4.7" screen, at least 1280*720, in the same size body. The current screen is not very pleasant to use with the font sizes in the os. Also, the general quality of the screen (brightness, contrast, colours) are very poor. This should be better in the next model.

The camera also needs an upgrade, maybe something with a bigger sensor. It is also a very slow camera atm, this needs to be much quicker.

I also encounter a fair bit of lag, so please upgrade the processor to something like a Snapdragon 800+. along with at least 2gb ram of course...

This should all be possible for the same price point where the original Jolla was launched. Maybe a bit more.

But I honestly believe that the main issues are still in the software. Sailfish OS still doesn't feel mature and stable enough. Since the last update I have a lot of lag, hot phone syndrome, and freezers. Connections are often lost, and I really tire of seeing the connection error message (and why would I have to manually select between 4g and Wi-Fi?). I'm really hoping for a quick update to fix all this... (a lot of our seems to relate to the connman 'update' of July).

answered 2014-10-03 20:56:22 +0300

Lipo
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I rally hope the new one will be bigger as I really prefer larger screens. It doesn't have to be like Galaxy Note (which I love) but a phone smaller than 5“ is not for me. But at the same time I really hope my next phone will be a Jolla, I still miss my N900 as this way of thinking os is the right thing for me. Currently I have a Galaxy 5s, love the size, quite like Android, but I think I will LOVE sailfish, so I hope the next Jolla will be a phone for me. A keyboard like on N900 is a wet dream of mine, but I'm afraid those times are over. Or are they?

answered 2015-04-16 11:25:00 +0300

gordon_pcb_designer
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We absolutely need a much more reliable connector for micro USB. At the moment connector doesn't fit totally in position, and moving the phone often provoke start/stop charging.

answered 2015-08-12 11:13:32 +0300

jalyst
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updated 2015-08-12 11:21:47 +0300

Supposedly I'm not allowed to start my own thread about this, how extraordinary. Shame, that means I won't be hanging out much at TJC. I was considering upping my presence much more, & gradually becoming much more of a contributor/helper. Anyway, here's what I had in my original thread...

Originally I had asked 2 Jolla employees this Qn directly in a non-official site:

You guys should srsly consider making your next phone phablet size i.e. approx. 5.7". There's a tonne of Galaxy Note neckbeards who are about to be alienated from Samsung over the next 12mth. Samsung has decided to go the "Apple way" & remove mSD, removable battery, & also go with a more premium but fragile build-quality.

Thanks to your Tablet efforts, you would be much better prepared for a large Phone. In a masterfully crafted crowfunding initiative, you should pitch WQHD/QHD display (leave it for you to decide on LCD or OLED), the fastest possible built-in NAND (UFS 2.x or at least the latest/greatest eMMC), & the latest/greatest mSD standard.

SoC will leave to you guys, x86 or ARM, preferably ARM, but x86 has (slowly but surely) been getting increasingly competitive. And ofc it should be a "world-phone", compatible on as many cellular bands as possible, & uses the latest/greatest cellular standards.

Then you should add just 1 perk: "Active Digitiser" i.e. like the Note's S-pen*. I wouldn't add any other perks, as that's more than enough to focus on & "get right". You would of course keep "TOH" feature, but it may have to remain as neglected as it was with the J1 (i.e rely on the community to step-up if/when it can), but you'd probably upgrade it's interface as I2C's too limiting.

Longer term you'd also try to implement a "Continuum" feature, like we're seeing coming to Win10Mobile & a similar implementation coming to UbuntuTouch (i.e bridge the divide between Mobile & Desktop), but that may be beyond your meagre resources.

Reading between the lines there's very little money left for your device making business, so you'd probably have to rely almost entirely on a well crafted crowd-funding initiative, one which avoids promises/user_expectations jumping too far ahead of what you can deliver. The core specs I've suggested aren't "pie in the sky", especially if we're talking about a phone that's not shipping till this time next year -or later. Whaddya think?

*MS is also expected to release a Phablet device in Nov/Dec this year, it supposedly uses a digitiser very similar to the Surface Pro 3 i.e. "excellent"

So now that it's been posted in "official" channels, lets see if we get some professional feedback. To be clear, there's no expectation of a detailed response about your plans for a J2. Just a brief: "Yeah maybe that'd work -it's noted" or, "We don't think that'd work -here's why" etc.

answered 2015-08-12 19:03:47 +0300

uhima
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My suggestion is a hifi system. Xiaomi e.g. offer a smartphone with a hifi-system. I am a music enthusiast and I wish for the next phone such an equipment. And DLNA and aptX would also be great.

answered 2015-08-13 02:27:45 +0300

Tobbe
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I really like the current Jolla, but I got some concerns which can improve the next one:

• It needs some more power. Sometimes it takes ages to open an app on the current phone and it runs out of memory quite fast. The multitasking experience would be much better with faster hardware. Still, this needs to be balanced against:

• Better batterylife. I hardly manage day of moderate use on my Jolla. Maybe part of this could be solved with:

• A better screen. As some has pointed out, you need to turn the brightness up to max if you want to have the slightest chances of using your phone outside. Better resolution wouldn't hurt either, and the size of the screen itself could be bigger (without expanding the body of the unit, which is spot on).

• Better speakers. I got quite a few missed calls just because I couldn't hear the phone.

• Better (more clear) privacy settings for apps, like a way to toggle of the ability to find my location.

These are my main concerns. Get those right and I'm sure to stay onboard! :)

answered 2014-02-13 11:29:42 +0300

Boduosuoyao
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I have some suggestions adout the sides. When we week up the screen,we can changge subjects. And we also can change the subjects through cards of tasks of signs. I think it wastes too much. One of them can doing it will be better.

answered 2014-06-29 22:39:46 +0300

Macilaci457
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I think the next Jolla should be very similar. It doesn´t need high-tech but better-tech. Should keep the TOH and thus the sorm factor: no smaller Jolla

Some asked for a solar charger TOH, here is my critic on those: Putting down Your phone with display down in the sun with a black solar cell that gets hot, and the charging battery is behind that. Its a bad idea. What phones could use solar tech is longening batery life, not replacing the charger. Like solar watches, should do that in the front, which actually the bezels. So no smaller bezels either. I havent seen this tech yet but think about it Jolla.