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Sailfish OS for puzzlephone - How can we help?

asked 2014-12-02 08:26:47 +0300

simo gravatar image

updated 2014-12-03 21:05:54 +0300

Another company from Finland, Circular Devices, is planning to release an AOSP phone next year. Is there something that our community could do to help them adapt Sailfish OS instead / also? Common values includes at least:

  • Aiming towards OpenSource
  • Made in Finland
  • Start up companies
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I don't think they'd be interested, since they're looking to have a fully auditable phone, hence fully open-source, which Sailfish unfortunately is NOT!

dsilveira ( 2014-12-02 14:41:34 +0300 )edit

@dsilveira Yes, unfortunately not yet, but hopefully reaching their goal to be that. Let's work towards it!

simo ( 2014-12-02 23:28:46 +0300 )edit

I don't think they are from Nokia background(at least not the main guys), you are probably mixing them with Vseen, yet another Finnish company doing a modular phone with Android :)

VDVsx ( 2014-12-03 20:00:05 +0300 )edit

Yeah, probably minor... They mention marketing (Agra Agala) with Nokia Latvia background, but in the main team no other mentions. Editing that part away.

simo ( 2014-12-03 21:05:43 +0300 )edit

I think speculation will be much more informed, both for Puzzlephone and Vsenn, after MWC .. for now, it's purely academic.

midnightoil ( 2014-12-03 21:48:51 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-12-02 09:45:22 +0300

eric gravatar image

updated 2014-12-02 11:16:00 +0300

Well, you could contact them and ask about their OS and plans but there's nothing that can be done here now I'm afraid, except, discussing, speculating and of course dreaming :)

So go ahead, and let's see how the Community can put something together and convince Alejandro Santacreu to ship SailfishOS on the puzzlephone...

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:( must go with that then... I was thinking that we might have enough of people to ask it together - but let it be then

simo ( 2014-12-02 09:59:08 +0300 )edit

Gosh! How is it possible! Eric! Companies like Jolla and Circular Devices should support each other. Together you will be stronger. It's an opportunity, don't be so arrogant.

MiLano ( 2014-12-02 10:21:13 +0300 )edit

@MiLano: Hey, relax :) I'm just saying that at this stage, @simo opens a topic where we cannot do anything else than speculate and our Community can hardly participate if HW and SW specs aren't fully known. How come i this arrogant? I'm just trying to be a little pragmatic here... And I'm sure we will have the opportunity to contribute based on the public roadmap available here:

eric ( 2014-12-02 10:32:47 +0300 )edit

I think, Jolla already has enough on their plate - they need to get their Phone & tablet to good shape first! :-) . Also, I believe there would already be a Jolla team looking for such vendor partnerships. Am not saying it is wrong suggesting it here but unlikely to have any real impact, IMO

anandrkris ( 2014-12-02 10:46:28 +0300 )edit

@eric, sorry for overreacting a bit. But there is a difference between: "not relevant" and "hey, greate idea, we can talk to those guys/girls". Wasn't Sailfish licensing one of the important priorities?

MiLano ( 2014-12-02 11:06:38 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-11-04 00:29:46 +0300

dac gravatar image

updated 2015-11-12 17:05:39 +0300

Update: Sailfish is coming to Puzzlephone, as announced on Slush and Indiegogo. I will leave the following text here anyway...

SFOS on PuzzlePhone

As mentioned in the current crowdfunding campaign, it seems that at least theoretically there could be the possibility to use different OS like Sailfish on the Puzzlephone, as they plan for an optional package with unlocked bootloader.

See in the comments the answer of Alejandro to Marko Paasila: Indiegogo Campaign Comments.

Maybe we can convince everyone that not only a "Maker" package is useful, but also a "Sailfish Package"? At least quite a few backers seem to also be backers of the Jolla Tablet. I guess we could at least ask politely.

Update: Let's collect votes for Puzzlephone here in the Poll on TJC

Update2: in the comments on Indiegogo we asked about unlocked bootloader and SFOS. Agra Apele answered (to Chris) that an unlocked bootloader "will be provided", and that they do take a note on SFOS for Puzzlephone... let's see what that means. :-)

Update3: a perk has been added that contains some info on tailoring custom modules... Quote:

The Heart (battery module) has a standard USB connection to the Brain (processor & cellular module). That makes The Heart (battery module) your ticket to ride: 3D print your custom modified version and fit your custom PCB solution, ready to talk with your app on the device.

The perk contains:

  1. Access to the PuzzlePhone Makers Community for regular updates on these materials during the R&D process.
  2. 3D CAD of casework in STL format for 3D printing prior to end of campaign.
  3. Puzzlephone Design Guide: How to make your own modules (how to connect, how to make your own modules, how to interface with sensors, etc.)
  4. Module connector cables in various lengths, plus break out connector board.
  5. Unlocked boot-loader.

looks like TOH - The Other Heart...

Update4: SFOS will come to PuzzlePhone, as announced on Slush, and in the latest Indiegogo Update. Yeah...

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Yes, i heard Alejandro on Slush... I updated the answer already... Awesome...

dac ( 2015-11-12 16:53:13 +0300 )edit

I think this could be an option to send the JP1301 to retirement.

jolladiho ( 2015-11-12 20:24:10 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-12-03 21:49:29 +0300

Alberto gravatar image

sailfish would be great for the puzzlephone. Still it depends if they are already working on some linux/personalized version for their phone. However Sailfish on puzzlephone means more work for Jolla team. and It seems that they are gonna start shipping the first versions with android on it.

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With more or less standard hardware it must be possible. If SailFish is wonderful, flexible, adaptable and open, why porting should be a problem? It's about contacting Puzzlephone and start cooperation. Users can't do it, companies should do it. Again, in the beginning there were talks that SailFish OS will grow by licensing. Year later, FireFox OS is already available on at least 14 different devices from different vendors. I would expect that somebody at Jolla responsible for licensing and contact will take a phone or write en e-mail to PuzzlePhone team and then tell us here what they were able to settle down.

MiLano ( 2014-12-04 10:13:43 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-10-28 11:27:53 +0300

r0kk3rz gravatar image

updated 2015-10-28 11:30:42 +0300

Looks like the Puzzlephone Project is launching an IndieGoGo

Still no major word about Operating Systems, and open source code, but I guess we will see more at their SLUSH 2015 Launch in a few weeks.

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According to them it will be Android based: PuzzlePhone Blog from 19.10.2015: "For now, we are working on a Android based PuzzlePhone. But we will be happy if any interested third party develops a brain that can run another OS."

dac ( 2015-10-28 15:11:47 +0300 )edit

Just now it was claimed that the bootloader will not be unlocked by default, but an optional package is planned for "makers" as they claim which include an unlocked bootloader. Indiegogo Comment by Alejandro Santacreu, answer to Marko Paasila

dac ( 2015-11-04 00:18:54 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-10-30 08:49:15 +0300

iKeivs gravatar image

updated 2015-10-30 08:55:54 +0300

Hih... :D these modular phones looks great, when they have involuntary flight or introducing with gravity :D

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