Not so fast anymore (or unlike)

asked 2015-09-24 16:50:07 +0300

Jollala
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updated 2015-09-24 17:12:42 +0300

After using the newest release of SFOS I've noticed that some things occur everywhere. The OS is not fast anymore (as in fluent) and it's not so unlike anymore. The slowness is everywhere: the pulley menu animation is slow, getting to the home screen is slow because the unlock swipe isn't just a little flick, opening your most used apps is slower because I now have to open the whole app drawer just to access to the top row of the apps. Also locking the phone is slow because I have to fist swipe down and then tap. I also can't switch to silent mode in the lock screen anymore and even if I could do that I would have to lock the phone first because I can't get to the lock screen from the home screen.

The OS isn't so unlike anymore either due to the carousel home screen and the reduced cover actions and the fact that the power status, the time and your mobile coverage are shown all the time.

SFOS updates before 1.1.9.28 had many very cool innovations and it was very very fluid. And even though 1.1.9.28 has some neat features I still feel that we have gone a little bit downhill.

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agree: solid but not so sexy. Quick launcher in favourites was much better than opening the drawer all the time.

danfin ( 2015-09-24 17:20:48 +0300 )edit

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personally i really dont like them changing cover gestures to buttons... didnt they say stuff like "we dont want you to touch tiny buttons on your tiny screen" ?

and now where are we? tiny buttons.

i really liked the cover gestures... and i really cant see any reason why jolla changed this. edge-swiping could still get you to notifications (i miss the bottom-edge-swipe to notification screen but i think i can handle this change) and that carousel stuff would still work with edge-swiping.

and that you cant go to the lockscreen anymore sucks too.... that was how i accessed the settings app 99% of the time pre 1.1.9.x

also why is there on the homescreen a screen-swipe-left/right/up but not down?

mlatu ( 2015-09-25 13:40:03 +0300 )edit

Reason why I have kept my Jolla 1 in <1.1.9 :)

rubyhorse ( 2019-12-04 06:32:52 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-24 17:15:18 +0300

Direc
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updated 2015-09-24 17:52:31 +0300

Personally I like the new app switcher view, where I can see battery status and cell signal strength et. al., no swiping needed! However, they are not visible in any app, and that is still unlike. As I have stated elsewhere, some wheels already invented are widespread because of a reason, and there is absolutely no sense being unlike just for the sake of being unlike - you have to come up with a new way to do something old, and it's harder than it looks. Please tell us a better way to implement them, and if it's good enough, Jolla will listen to you.

What it comes to snappiness and being fluent, the amount of apps installed and, most of all, Android apps contibute to very much. Jolla as a smartphone isn't the one with the biggest muscles of them all, which is one thing, but there could be a bit more RAM to hold aliendalvik. Android apps tend to eat a lot more RAM than SailfishOS apps. I recently had to give up Facebook and its Messenger apps, and my memory usage came down by >100MB. It's not all in Jollas hands.

What it comes to gestures and delays, SailfishOS is an open platform, full of patches and tweaks to install. For each and every feature/issue/gesture you mentioned there already exist a patch to make it better.

~~Last but not least, please keep in mind that we are talking about pre-release softare here. We are early adopters by choice, and instead of complaining we can do something about things that annoy us.~~

EDIT: SailfishOS 2.0 is released.

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is no pre-release anymore ;-)

MichaelS ( 2015-09-24 17:21:06 +0300 )edit

SailfishOS 1.x is stable, SailfishOS 2.x is pre-release until it is released to all users :)

Direc ( 2015-09-24 17:28:56 +0300 )edit

1.1.9 was released today: https://together.jolla.com/question/107685/release-notes-119eineheminlampi-released/ So this change is available for all users

MichaelS ( 2015-09-24 17:33:04 +0300 )edit

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Well I'm no UI designer and these were just my opinions that I wanted to state because I felt that some other people would feel the same.

And, yes, one doesn't have to invent the wheel again but there is always room for improvement.

I may have stated my self badly but what I meant was that the UI its self is not snappy and fast anymore. The gestures are slow and so on. The phone it's self is not studdering. And when it comes to patches I don't want to carry around massive amounts of patches since there is a lot of software updates and they might break the phone in other ways. I tried them some time a go, they did what they were supposed to do but when a system update came along you had to first turn patches off, update, then wait for the patches to be updated and it just was a bit of a mess.

Jollala ( 2015-09-24 17:38:51 +0300 )edit

Blimey! It is released! Woo!

Direc ( 2015-09-24 17:51:15 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-25 12:09:23 +0300

cgfrost
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I agree with this, it feels much slower navigating around to get things done. There a lot of great improvements and I don't want to go back to pre-2.0.0 but not everything has gotten better. Going from locked to opening an app is now very slow, this is the worst change I think. Before it was just two swipes up and I can see the apps I want to open. Now there are animations slowing things down, side swipe and then upswipe.

It would be great to have the top row of the apps draw always present again, that made it really quick to get to common apps. I know I can tap to get them to show up when I have no other apps open but I almost always have an app open. I also know I can have three apps in the lock screen pully menu but I haven't found that very useful over the last week or so since upgrading.

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Going from locked to opening an app is now very slow, this is the worst change I think.

try bottom edge swiping in the lock screen.

mlatu ( 2015-09-25 13:30:15 +0300 )edit

Thanks for the pointer. More recent updates seem to have addressed most of my concerns now. A happy sailor once again.

cgfrost ( 2016-02-26 13:49:13 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-24 17:16:41 +0300

Jussi Pakkanen
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You don't have to open the full app drawer. If you tap on the home screen once, the top row of apps appears at the bottom of the screen.

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Just to add, this only works when there are no Covers on the Home screen. :)

raketti ( 2015-09-24 17:18:28 +0300 )edit

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I always have whatsapp open so not gonna work

Jollala ( 2015-09-24 17:28:23 +0300 )edit

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Does only work with no covers on home-screen...

chemist ( 2015-09-24 17:28:57 +0300 )edit

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I think that "swipe up anywhere" gesture compensates this a bit. Yes, the first row going all the way up is cumbersome, but just rearrange your apps and you're done :)

Direc ( 2015-09-24 17:31:44 +0300 )edit

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Not really, I need them on the hotseat always, and am now 2years in on getting used to that they are not in the top row when launcher is pulled in... now try to get my brain to eat that...

chemist ( 2015-09-24 17:41:45 +0300 )edit

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