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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0200

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Next meeting:Thursday 30th of November 2017 at 09:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: http://bit.ly/2AScZvj

Logs of previous meetings: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Agenda/topics:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick : tortoisedoc
  • topic: Apps install/usage stats per device in Harbour (NOT Jolla store)
  • some details about the topic: As a developer, I'd benefit from an improved view of my userbase, splitted by device type and Application, visible from the developer Harbour summary page. For example, this helps in identifying where to focus testing efforts to, and eventual issues with application on specific devices.

For example:

App A:

  • Jolla C : 400 Installs
  • Jolla OTH : 400 Installs
  • Sailfish X : 3000 installs

  • approx time needed: 20 minutes


For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0200 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0200 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0200 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0200 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2014-10-21 08:43:21 +0200

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updated 2014-10-21 08:57:55 +0200

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No topic proposals received for meeting scheduled for Oct 21. Let's vote for next meeting times (please vote on the comments following this "answer"). You can also add a comment with a new time and get people to vote on it.

And please propose topics by editing the wiki above!

(You can vote on more than one, so please vote for all the times that suit you)

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Thursday Oct 30 @ 10:00 UTC

cybette ( 2014-10-21 08:46:28 +0200 )edit
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Thursday Oct 30 @ 15:00 UTC

cybette ( 2014-10-21 08:46:38 +0200 )edit
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Tuesday Nov 4 @ 10:00 UTC

cybette ( 2014-10-21 08:47:03 +0200 )edit
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Tuesday Nov 4 @ 15:00 UTC

cybette ( 2014-10-21 08:52:26 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-04-07 10:22:22 +0200

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Name / IRC nick: luca247

topic: when daemon and others forbidden components will be permitted in the store

some details about the topic: we have some great apps in openrepos like sailorgram (a telegram client) or webpirate (a native browser) that cannot make into the store becase daemons or other components are forbidden on the harbour...i understand you want a safe store but this way we will never grow up...openrepos is updating apps sometimes even with a rythm of 2/3 per day...the jolla store have a rythm of 1 every 2 or 3 weeks...this is simply ridicolous...even microsoft doesn't have such rigid rules and the store is the most clean...we know our developers and we know they are not harming the system and after thissometime ago we were talking about users that could test applications before release to help jolla...any news on that?

approx time needed: 5 minutes

optional: just answer if i'm not there i will read the logs

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answered 2016-12-04 19:32:21 +0200

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updated 2016-12-05 13:25:08 +0200

  • Name / IRC nick : RodSeq
  • Topic : Google Play services
  • Some details about the topic : the Gplay services app is not well integrated in the OS yet. Would it be possible to have a stable "frozen" Gplay services app on the Jolla Store to be downloaded like other Android apps ? There is already a great solution developped on OpenRepos (https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/opengapps-pico-installer#comment-16413) that would really help simplifying the Saiflish user experience for basic users while to my view respecting all the necessary Gplay services permissions
  • approx time needed : 15mn
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answered 2017-02-14 21:32:24 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: pavi
  • Topic: Clarify and cleanup of Wiki's
  • Details about the topic

We have currently 2 Wikis, one is at https://wiki.merproject.org/ and the other is at https://sailfishos.org/wiki/ . This issue concerns the visiblity of three projects SailfishOS, Mer and Nemo. The three are related to Mer but the information in the wiki is

  • Too confusing
  • Repeated
  • Ambiguous
  • Written in wrong place
  • Outdated

So I hope some time is spent to discuss these issues. I am adding this to locusf topic above discussing Nemo. Please discuss this issue close to that topic.

  • Time Required: 20 minutes
  • backup:locusf
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ditto that, roll into one add category like Mer, Sailfish, Nemo, similar to Open Repos way of one website but with filter to screen out messages related to mer for example.

DarkTuring ( 2017-02-14 22:48:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-04-16 20:29:37 +0200

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updated 2017-04-16 20:32:39 +0200

  • Name / IRC nick : bshah, toxip, mariogrip

  • Topic: Project Halium, collaboration on common android base

  • Description: Currently Ubuntu Touch, SailfishOS/Mer, Plasma Mobile and others have different android source trees and methods on how our stacks are built even though much of the underlying technologies are the same. There is a lot of unneeded fragmentation. Project Halium aims solve this by the having common android base and perhaps common middleware between different projects so that we could collaborate and distribute each of our resources more efficiently. More details about this project was sent to sailfishos devel list : http://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/007842.html

  • Approx time needed: 10-15 mins

  • Backup: (The whole Halium team will be there so no backup needed)

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answered 2017-07-17 00:43:35 +0200

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updated 2017-07-17 00:44:17 +0200

Name / IRC nick: adamski

topic: Jolla Harbour paid apps

some details about the topic: What is holding things up regarding paid apps and IAP on Jolla Harbour?

approx time needed: 3 mins

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Edit first post and add your topic there

atlochowski ( 2017-07-17 09:38:30 +0200 )edit
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OK, I see, however I am a new user on here and don't have enough karma points to edit wiki posts. Thanks

adamski ( 2017-07-17 12:16:14 +0200 )edit
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@adamski I've added that for you, welcome :)

r0kk3rz ( 2017-07-17 15:24:36 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-01-19 18:49:37 +0200

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Talking about map component could be also interesting, infos it's scattered, confusing and sometime frustrating. summarizing available option, talk about timeline for official API could be useful. But I'm not sure if can be fit in the community meeting, anyway, i propose...

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answered 2016-03-31 22:17:05 +0200

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updated 2016-03-31 22:18:00 +0200

Name / IRC nick: nh1402 topic: Splitscreen Multitasking

some details about the topic: Is it still going to be implemented (once Jolla get more man (or female)-power of course) or is it just not going to happen anymore?

approx time needed: 2 minutes (a yes or no answer with an explanation should suffice)

optional: If I'm not there then just answer the question I'll read the log.

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answered 2016-04-15 15:24:31 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick:
    Timur Kristóf / Venemo
  • topic:
    Upgrading Qt to latest upstream
    1) Is it among the plans to upgrade to the latest upstream Qt version?
    2) What are the main roadblocks to upgrading Qt?
    3) How can the community help with this?
  • some details about the topic:
    Currently Sailfish OS uses Qt 5.2.1 which is so old that dealing with it almost feels like doing archeology. I'm interested in using parts of Qt (for example, the Bluetooth Low Energy API) that are available in newer versions. I think everyone would be happy to benefit from the advances in Qt (eg. scene graph and other graphical improvements) that have been developed since the currently used version was released. I also think that since Qt is at the heart of Sailfish OS, it should pride itself on always providing the state-of-the-art latest version.
  • approx time needed:
    maybe 5-10 minutes
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@Venemo even with an upgrade of Qt, Bluetooth LE won't come: it requires bluez 5 which can't be implemented without new verification process (radio license). So there is no way this Bt profile could be used officially now and in future!

lpr ( 2016-05-02 16:43:01 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-12-09 19:43:58 +0200

Dave999 gravatar image

Thank you for still running these meetings.

I'm interested in what is happening with the tablet and all things related to the tablet.

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... and especially interested in promised blog post clarifying and finally settling down this whole damn thing...

zlutor ( 2016-01-24 17:31:55 +0200 )edit

Latest details from Juhani Lasilla regarding the tablet can be found on: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.nl/2016/02/jolla-tablets-in-china.html

The rest can be found in the official Jolla Blog post: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-closure/

JSE ( 2016-02-01 19:59:25 +0200 )edit
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