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[wiki] State of Sailfish X, sensors, apps and Android™ support on Sony XA2 variants

asked 2019-02-01 11:01:12 +0200

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This is intended to collect android apps and other new features (camera quality, bluetooth, NFC, etc...) working on the XA2 series with the new Sailfish X and AlienDalvik for Android 8.1 compatibility. It might help the developers, especially in beta phase. And it helps potential users and users of other Jolla phones to make an educated decision whether it suits their needs.

Please edit the main post with your information since this is a wiki post.
Please try to separate apps from other phone features and use common sense.


Table of contents:

Sailfish X - General

  • Almost continuous minor stuttering in both native and Android UI (XA2 dual sim / 3.0.1 / 2019-02-03)

  • Hotspot (wifi-sharing) only works correctly when the password has been changed at least once. (3.0.1.14 / 2019-02-09)

  • No delivery reports for SMS. Confirmed for multiple variants on 2019-02-22

Sailfish X - Sensors

  • Fingerprint reader - working (XA2 single/double sim [3.1.0.11]), but seems to consume a lot of battery (minus ~20% overnight VS minus ~5% with sensor off - https://together.jolla.com/question/210790/stronger-battery-drain-since-310-seitseminen/?answer=212698#post-id-212698).
  • GPS - working (XA2 Dual SIM H4113); took a long while until GPS position was found initialy, since then it is fine
  • GPS - partially working (XA2 Plus Dual SIM H4113); Intial position quick, but half speed displayed (native apps & android apps)
  • Compass - working (XA2 Dual SIM H4413). Needs calibration (e.g. from within Jussi Vuorisalmi's compass app) before results make sense.
  • Proximity Sensor - currently buggy (either triple-press the bower butten or see workaround here)
  • Flip cover - The flip cover doesn't work as expected during calls (link)

  • earphone jack - (XA2 single sim [3.2.1.20]) finaly works without problems. Looks like some layers of the male 3,5 plug were not supported or defined (link)

  • handsfree set - set with a mic and volume +/- buttons works well on XA2 Dual sim; set with answer button is not tested.

  • ... - ...

Sailfish X - Apps

working 100%

  • (not listed here)

partially working

  • Browser (Native) - Playback of videos are not working i dr.dk (National TV). After 10 sec. of viewing, view will be zoomed in and playback speed will be changed.

    • Camera - When a picture is taken, the preview is shown and after that the camera takes the actual photo. If the phone is moved during the preview animation or right after that it will lead in to a blurry photo.
  • Take the photo when the camera button (SW or HW) is pressend and then show the preview animation, or
  • Take the photo and simultaneously show the preview animation

  • Slightly better performance on the camera in [3.0.2.8], still the photo gets blurred if the phone is moved after taking the photo.

    • Situations - Cannot sense which cell towers are in range. Possibly related to this bug? ([3.0.3.8] / 2019-04-26)
    • Predictive text input - if you type a text, and immediately start typing another one, the new one will start and begin with the last typed word from the previous text (only noticed with Android apps ex: WhatsApp)

not working

  • ...

Aliendalvik Android™ support - General

  • Sailfish Contacts show up in Android Apps, Calenders not.
  • Actually, Sailfish contacts do only partially show up in Signal

  • No access to SD card.

  • Photos taken with android camera apps show up double in android galleries (at least if the are displayed by folder)

  • Sometimes open/running androids apps appcomplaintear double on main sailfish screen

  • Sometimes opening/running android apps, screen goes all black. Pressing the on/off button flashes an image of the android app, then turns off screen again. A second press sends you back to the lock screen.

  • SCP/rsync to ~nemo/android_storage causes aliendalvik crash

  • sometimes android system notifications pop up ("app X is using battery" / low battery warnings)

  • "Allow app background process to be started on boot" (loosely translated from Finnish) isn't respected. If the setting is off, the app will still start which will increase the memory usage a lot.

  • Edit: For reference, here's two screenshots from my "usual" home screen. First one is with the Android support turned off, second one is with the Android support on, without opening any additional apps (ok, CargoDock open...):

  • "usual" home screen: https://together.jolla.com/upfiles/15494797664559088.png

  • with Android support turned on: https://together.jolla.com/upfiles/15494798688161383.png

  • Copy and paste does not work from Android to Sailfish (as stated in release notes) but some users report it also does not work the other way around. ([3.0.1.14] / 2019-02-09)

  • Text-To-Speech seems broken. With OSMAnd and BikeCitizen it does not work. Also when navigating with here maps several popups appear that "TinyTTS" stopped working.

  • Display blanks even when viewing videos or during navigation. It seems Android apps can't prevent screen blanking at the moment. ([3.0.3.8] / 2019-04-26)

  • Screen goes blank when stopping Android support ([3.0.3.8] / 2019-04-25)

  • Automatic Rotation of the screen: when turning the phone from portrait to landscape, pressing your finger on the screen prevents the Automatic Rotation from happening only as long as you keep your finger there. Once you lift it, the Automatic Rotation does happen. Works properly on Sailfish apps. (2019-08-03 still an issue in [3.1.0.11])

  • Keyboard sticks to the screen on Android apps. On Jolla 1 and Jolla C and Jolla Tablet, you could get rid of the keyboard by tapping somewhere else on screen. On Sailfish X, the only way is to background the app and foreground it again. But certain banking apps (e.g. Säästöpankki Tunnistus) seem to reset if they're backgrounded. Which means that you cannot complete the initial login to the app since the proceed button is under the keyboard. (Xperia XA2 Dual Sim, 3.0.2.8, 2019-04-04) [2019-08-03: I managed to get around this issue on 3.1.0.11 on OmaTunnistus app by closing the keyboard by dragging it downwards from the keyboard's top row.]

Aliendalvik Android™ support - Sensors

  • Fingerprint reader working (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])
  • GPS works (XA2 [3.2.1.20])
  • NFC does not work (XA2 [3.2.1.20])

Aliendalvik Android™ support - Apps

working 100%

Hint: Please try and keep alphabetical order. Thanks!

  • Amazon Music (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
    • Including Alexa
  • APKPure(XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])
  • Aurora Store (XA2+ Dual Sim [3.0.2.8])
  • BNPParibas app in France (XA2 h3113 [3.1.0.11]) If the app does not work open a ticket to have a new "digital key". Do not worry about messages of the app who ask to you to update Google Play ;-) [edit 2019-12-04 : if the digital key is disable, you need to re-able it in "mon profil")
  • Burger King DE (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Credit Mutuel (XA2 Single SIM) : PSD2) starts working on v7.10.0 app revision
  • Danfoss Link (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • DB Navigator 19.12.p01.04 (XA2 single sim [3.2.1.20]) google services warning appears but it works fine!
  • dict.cc (XA2 [3.2.1.20])
  • Duolingo (XA2 [3.2.1.20]) App says it won't work without Google Play Services, but actually it does.
  • Dropbox (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • EDF & Moi (XA2 mono sim [3.2.1.20] seems OK. EDF is a french electric supplier and it's possible to pay invoices on his app.
  • eLiksa (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.2.8])
  • ePassi (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.2.8])
  • Facebook (XA2 single sim [3.0.2.8])
  • Fahrinfo (works on XA2 Dual Sim since [3.0.2.8] works but in a strange way if you press after the stationname a no network concection error accurs. Enter the name waiting without enter works...
  • Firefox Focus (XA2 Ultra Single Sim [3.3.0.14])
  • Firefox Klar (XA2 single sim [3.0.2.8])
  • Firefox Lite (XA2 dual sim [3.2.1.20])
  • Google Translate (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Kicker (XA2 single sim [3.0.2.8])
  • LIFX (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Maps.me (XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12])
  • Memrise Lesring Languages (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
    • only the sound is not so loud.
  • Messenger Lite (XA2 single sim [3.0.2.8])
  • Microsoft OneDrive (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Mi Manga Nu (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])
  • Mobile Pay (XA2 Dual Sim / H4113 [3.0.1.14])
  • Moovy
    • Requires up-to-date Google Services, provided by e.g. MicroG 0.2.10.19420
  • Netflix v4.15.1 (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.10])
  • Nextcloud PhoneTrack (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14]) (whats that, there is no such Android App) => https://f-droid.org/de/packages/net.eneiluj.nextcloud.phonetrack/ Nordea Mobile (Suomi) and Nordea Codes (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])
  • Opera (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14])
  • OsmAnd only partially since [3.1.0.11], works on XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12]
  • Payback DE (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
    • Except Payback Pay
  • Plex (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14], XA2 Ultra Single Sim [3.3.0.14])
  • Protonmail (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11], XA2 Ultra Single Sim [3.3.0.14])
  • Qobuz (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Roon (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14], XA2 Ultra Single Sim [3.3.0.14])
  • Sonos App (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])
  • SoundHound (XA2 single sim [3.0.2.8])
  • Sp-Mobiili (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
    • Does complain about phone being rooted, but works
  • Stocard (XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12])
  • Strato HiDrive (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14], but hints for missing Play Servics)
  • Säästöpankki tunnistus (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Tidal (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Toon, Eneco smart thermostaat app (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Trust Smart Home (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Telegram (calls not yet working with wifi, but working great with mobile internet) IN XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.1.19])
  • Urban Sports Club (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Viber (XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12])
  • Vienna Airport (XA2 [3.2.1.20])
  • VUE NL (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Wallabag (XA2 H3113 [3.1.0.11])
  • willhaben (XA2 [3.2.1.20])
  • Wilma (XA2 Dual SIM [3.0.2.8])
  • Wunderlist (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])
  • Yalp Store (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14])
    • minor bug: the "Updating" animation (spinning circular arrow) doesn't work.
  • Yesss! (XA2 [3.2.1.20])
  • YLE Areena (XA2 dual sim [3.0.2.8)
  • Yle.fi news app (XA2 dual sim [3.0.2.8])

working except notifications

  • DHL Paket (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Flipboard (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Logi Circle (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • MeWe (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])
  • Slack (XA2 [3.2.1.20])

partially working

Hint: Please try and keep alphabetical order. Thanks!

Authy

  • complains about missing play services, but works fine otherwise after dismissing the complaint popup. If microg is installed and configured correctly, then the app is working fine without the popup [3.2.0.12])

Berlin.de Service-App

  • doesn't work with mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

Business Calendar 2 (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])

  • not able to sync calendars with Fruux Android App (that works on Xperia X without problems)

BVG

  • no internet connection on mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14] XA2 plus dualsim same behavior, stays the same with [3.0.3.10])
  • buying tickets works on mobile however

Cityflitzer (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14])

  • can't find a location, no GPS
  • do not update to V 1.7.3 as it requires Google Services and does not start anymore, last working is V 1.7.2

Conversations (XA2 PLUS dual sim [3.1.0.11])

  • doesn't work with mobile data

Deezer (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])

  • not working on mobile data

Denon 2016 AVR Remote

  • Works after enabling WiFi from android settings
  • When it starts, a black window is opened, and notification "App is running in the background" is displayed. It takes several minutes before the app actually starts.

eBay Kleinanzeigen

  • doesn't work with mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

Espresso House (Works now after [3.0.3.9] and uploaded from Aptoide)

  • The map does not work especially with Here wego. Otherwise seems to work.

Eufy Home

  • Crashes when trying to pair a home device with Eufy Account (Xperia 10 Dual Sim & XA2 Dual Sim [3.3.0.16]). Pairing has to be performed with an Android/iOS phone. Afterwards the app works on Sailfish X without issues.

Foobar2000 (10 Dual SIM [3.3.0.16])

  • file picker doesn't work (opens, but can't make a selection)
  • playback from SD card works if you manually add the location as file:///storage/UUID/Music

Foreca weather

  • Cannot get the current location - locations can be manually selected

F-Droid Store

  • 2019-02-01 - XA2 Dual Sim (F4113) [3.0.1.14])
  • Mobile network doesn't work (fixed in [3.0.2.8])
  • images not displayed (app icons / screenshots)

Firefox (not Klar nor Lite)

  • 2019-02-01 - Xperia XA2 (F4113) [3.0.1.14]
  • Video playback doesn't work (works in 3.0.3.8 as long as one doesn't turn off the screen)
  • Sync won't authorize (fixed in [3.0.3.8])
  • FF won't start syncing ([3.0.3.9] / XA2 F4113)
  • setting as default with Mimer won't open links anymore after a while (at least in variants like Fennec or IceCat from f-droid)
  • does not work with mobile data ([3.2.1.20] / XA2 Dual SIM)

Flinkster (Car sharing app)

  • 2019-06-15 -Xperia XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.10]
  • Runs but needs for booking Google Services

FUT Companion

  • doesn't work with mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

Here Maps 2.0.13173 (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11]) not working with mobile data

  • Everything works except text-to-speech (TinyTTS) for navigation. Using a recorded voice should work however. (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14])

Heartstone (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])

  • Everything works but only in WiFi
  • Without Google Services Store is closed

HEOS

  • Works after enabling WiFi network in the Android settings

idealo

  • doesn't work with mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

K9 Mail (XA2 dual (H4113) [3.0.1.14])

  • IMAP idle not working (only polling works)
  • no sound / vibration / LED for notifications
  • notifications appear twice in events view
  • does not sync on mobile network (manual polling works)

Magenta Smart Home (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • Mobile Network doesn't work
  • Google Play notice on start

Mapy.cz (XA2 Single Sim [3.0.3.10])

  • GPS locks on fast, searching and routing works, off-line maps can be downloaded
  • the app isn't connected when using wi-fi, mobile data work (annoying when you want to download large maps)

Messenger * Works with mobile data (XA2 dual sim 3.1.0.11) * doesn't work with mobile data (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9]) * sharing some content from Facebook via Messenger works with mobile data

Microsoft Edge (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.9])

  • Mobile Network doesn't work

NetFlix (XA2+ Dual Sim [3.0.3.9])

  • Installed via Aurora Store
  • WiFi Only
  • No Download to App.
  • Version 4.12.2 -> WiFi needed at launch then mobile data works.

Nextcloud (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • New on-device media content is discovered only after full reboot of the device.

Nextcloud Talk

  • in a chat on mobile messages can be send, but the view is not updated
  • video calls not working

* ÖBB Scotty* (XA2 [3.2.1.20])

  • Works except for Map view (requires Google Play services), but works with MicroG

OP-mobiili (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.2.8])

  • Complains about missing network connection on mobile data

OsmAnd (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])

  • import (of tracks e.g.) isn't possible anymore since 3.1.0.11, app crashes

Pix-Art Messenger (XA2 PLUS dual sim [3.0.3.8])

  • doesn't work with mobile data

Quip (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • Mobile Network doesn't work

SeriesGuide (XA2 dual (H4113) [3.0.1.14])

  • does not fetch new episodes
  • episode screenshots not displayed

Shazam 8.4.2-190521-c3ef0e2 (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])

  • not working with mobile data

Signal Secure Messenger (XA2 Dual Sim [>= 3.1.0.11])

  • contacts are not synched with SailFish OS, only a handful of the last added contacts are visible within Signal

Sony Headphones Connect (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.8])

  • App starts up, but isn't functional when running
  • It tries to turn on bluetooth, but fails - even when bluetooth is enabled and/or headphones are already paired in the sailfish settings
  • Pairing with the WF-1000X case using NFC does not work

Spotify

  • not working on mobile data (XA2 [3.1.0.11])
  • working on mobile data (XA2 [3.1.0.11]) - android app permissions diskspace enabled
  • working media keys in SFOS lock screen (XA2 [3.1.0.11]) - android app permissions diskspace enabled
  • No media keys in SFOS lock screen
  • Cannot find chromecast devices for streaming audio to them ([3.0.2.8] / Requires a working Google Home, maybe?).

Sricam (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • Works Wi-Fi only
  • On mobile data crashes if you try to connect to the camera

Suomi.fi (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.2.8])

  • Doesn't load messages

Telegram

  • working now with mobile data in XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12] connection only through wifi, not working on mobile data (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])
  • Call voice comes from main speakers instead of on-ear speaker FIXED FOR MOBILE INTERNET CALL(not yet working with wifi) IN XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.1.19]
  • Cracking sound during calls FIXED FOR MOBILE INTERNET CALL(not yet working with wifi) IN XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.1.19]
  • Vibration works for incoming calls, but there is no visual UI to accept a call (partly fixed, visual UI still only when you open the app, following the notification, in FIXED IN XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.1.19]).

Tesla App

  • @Breeze: "Can't use my phone (XA2 single SIM) as a key on my Tesla Model 3 (uses bluetooth). Can connect with bluetooth for media files, calendar, phonebook and recent calls, but not as a key. Summon and Location doesn't work because of lack of Goolge Play Services. Everything else works fine."

Threema 4.3 (XA2 single & dual sim [3.2.1.20])

  • messaging works fine, except threema-web, works just with mobile data see here

  • Threema phone, works only with mobile data

  • Taking pictures within the app is only working by taping on the camera symbol in the textfield. With the adding attachment and the system camera is not working

Tiny Tiny RSS (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11])

*not working on mobile Data

Todois (XA2 single SIM [3.3.0.16])

  • Only works with MicroG installed.

Toshl Finance (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

  • doesn't work with mobile data

Twitter (XA2 single sim [3.0.3.9])

  • partially doesn't work with mobile data, some parts work

Vainglory (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.1.0.11])

  • Sometimes stucks for 1s or more but it s completely playable later

Verisure (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • Works on Wi-Fi (fixed in [3.0.2.8])
  • Doesn't work over mobile data (fixed in [3.0.2.8])

Viber (10 dual SIM [3.3.0.16])

  • calls work, can't set custom ringtone

WhatsApp (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.1.14])

  • Initial setup needs to be done with Wi-Fi (mentioned in the release notes)
  • Notifications show up double
  • Background process dies occasionally (need to have the app cover active to receive notifications)
  • Background process dies if app is closed by swipe or from home screen (x)
  • Video call works, but there's no audio on the receiving end
  • Watching videos requires a small workaround
  • QR-code scanner sometime not responding (XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.0.12])

** Zedge. Does not work in XA2 4113. It was earlier possible to enable Jolla tunes for notifications in Android WA and Telegram etc by means of Zedge. Zedge uploaded from Aptoide.

Öffi

  • shows banner when on mobile data that there's no connection but it actually works (XA2 single sim [3.0.1.14])

not working

Hint: Please try and keep alphabetical order. Thanks!

  • 0100100 Merellä - refuses to start on a rooted device
  • Airbnb (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - requires Google Play / Seems to work when installing this way: https://together.jolla.com/question/203485/how-to-install-a-split-android-apk/
  • Aktia Wallet - The most important feature, seeing your credit card information for paying, doesn't open. You can't even pay online (not to mention paying with NFC)
  • AMEX DE (Play Services and App crashes after complaining)
  • Beter Spellen / NU Beter Engels - No login screen, so content cannot be viewed (Dutch spelling test)
  • Bitpanda (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.2.0.12]) - starts, but can't login
  • BOOM (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - start, but can't find bluetooth-speaker, also connected ones
  • DAZN: Sport & Fußball Live Stream - app starts but doesn't load the login page
  • DB Navigator 20.04.p04 hangs at startup (XA2 Dual Sim [3.2.1.20]); older version (19.10) does work
  • Duckduckgo: Cannot be installed (window closes after pressing "install" in the Android App installation widget), 3.2.1.20
  • Easy Park - starts up telling that won't work without G services, then closes itself
  • ElsterSmart - display protection required
  • Flickr (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - if it can't get network connection clear its app cache
  • Flightradar 8.8.1 (XA2 Dual SIM [3.3.0.16]) - app start fails. With MicroG stuck on app start screen.
  • G7 Taxi (XA2 mono sim H3113 [3.3.0.16]) Needs Google Play and/or Google Services
  • Gadgetbridge (Androidapp via F-droid) - doesn't get a bluetooth connection even when bluetooth (and GPS, per suggestion of gadgetbridge) in Sailfish are on
  • Garmin Smartphone Link version 2.9.8 - doesn't get a bluetooth connection even when bluetooth in Sailfish is on, and Garmin Zumo is already connected; OpenAndroid Settings menu "Connected devices (Bluetooth, Cast)" cannot be opened.
  • Google Duo . Installation does not succeed in / XA2 4113.
  • Google Home, for home automation & streaming to chromecast devices. (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.8] - Requires Google Play
  • Google Calendar does not start nor will alternative android calendars sync
  • iRobot Home: can't log in to older version, new version doesn't start at all
  • Imgur: does not start
  • Jakdojade: public transport, crashes during startup (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.10])
  • Jitsi (XA2 monosim h3113 [3.2.1.20] cf: https://together.jolla.com/question/219001/bug-jitsi-does-not-stream/
  • Lumos (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - show "Bluetooth is off" , but it is enabled
  • MagentaSport (crashes on start)
  • Magisk & Magisk Manager
  • Mindfulness App (XA2 [3.1.0.11]) -freezes to first screen complaining "please verify that you have internet" even with WLAN on
  • Moovit: Cannot be installed (window closes after pressing "install" in the Android App installation widget), XA2 3.2.1.20
  • MyFritz!App 2 (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - show "enable Wlan", but it is enabled, after click the button to enable Wlan inside the app nothing happens)
  • Nest (message, during installation: App not installed)
  • ORF Tvthek
  • PayByPhone (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.10] - App doesn't start
  • Pivo (XA2 Plus Dual Sim [3.0.2.8]) - during installation: App not installed
  • PlantNet (XA2 Single SIM [3.3.0.16]) - Only opens with MicroG installed and cannot take/choose pictures.
  • Pôle Emploi (France) (XA2 mono sim H3113 - 3.2.0.12) - the app start but no connection at all (wifi or data) :-(
  • PostNL (app has no icon, only name/text; won't open/run)
  • RATP (France) [XA2 mono sim H3113 - 3.2.1.20] : needs all Google Tools.
  • (Samsung) Galaxy Wearables App. / Samsung Gear S3 App. (for both Android & Tizen) with Aliendalvik Android 8.1 beta, too. No BT connection. Can not enter to setup of eg. Galaxy Watch 46 mm.
  • Signal Secure Messenger (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14] "incompatible" according to yalp store)
  • Steam link (XA2 Dual Sim [3.1.0.11] cannot start and crashes
  • Teamspeak 3 3.3.5 (XA2 Dual SIM [3.3.0.16]) - "Critical Payment Error!" for payment verification upon start, also with MicroG
  • Tibo Audio (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.1.14] Cannot connect, WIFI not working :-( . Tibo audio works on a Sony Xperia X :-) )
  • Ticketmaster (message: Ticketmaster won't run without Google Play services, which are not supported by your device)
  • TrackerControl (XA2 Mono Sim - h3113[3.3.0.16] dowloaded with Fdroid : 0 tracker observed but Aurora Store says that some android apps have trackers.
  • Trainline.eu from Aptoide (XA2 H3113 [3.1.0.11][3.2.1][3.3.0.16]) Can connect on your account but fail on synchronisation of your datas. So impossible to see your previous travels, your future travels, or valid your basket.
  • TuneIn Radio
  • Uber: Cannot be installed (window closes after pressing "install" in the Android App installation widget), XA2 3.2.1.20
  • ViaNavigo (France) [XA2 mono sim H3113 - 3.2.1.20] Will never work on a "modified android" :-(
  • Oslo Bysykkel (Oslo City Bike, no.urbansharing.bysykkel), (XA2 Dual Sim [3.0.3.8]) - requires Google Play
  • ZDF Mediathek (XA2 single sim [3.1.0.11]) - Google Play services required
  • Zedge / from Aptoide. (XA2 4113 [3.0.3.9]) - Not working
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Well this is coincidence... I wanted to create the same wiki just now only to see that you already did it 6 minutes ago :D

I think it should be structured into 4 categories:

  1. Sailfish in general (with sensors)
  2. Sailfish apps
  3. Aliendalvik in general (Android™ support)
  4. Android apps

For android apps we should also write if internet access with mobile data connection works.

I just noticed that topic 2 will most probably only list 100% working apps ;)

Yo ( 2019-02-01 11:13:20 +0200 )edit
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How 'bout changing the topic to State of Sailfish X, sensors, apps and Android™ support on Sony XA2 variants?

Yo ( 2019-02-01 11:19:23 +0200 )edit

I hope nobody is offended by the way I restructured and renamed the wiki page.

Now let the content arise!

Yo ( 2019-02-01 11:53:46 +0200 )edit

I have no karma to edit I guess, but here's my take on XA2 Plus Dual Sim:

  • Authy : partially working (google services warning appears, auth codes and account sync work correctly though)
  • Bitwarden : not working, at least for me (fails to detect internet connection on WLAN and mobile)
orangecat ( 2019-02-01 13:00:06 +0200 )edit
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Firefox Beta, OsmAnd+ and NewPipe are all working flawlessly, even on mobile data.

XA2 Single Sim

laubblaeser ( 2019-02-01 13:12:26 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-02-16 13:04:24 +0200

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As I have not enough Karmapoints, my addition of not working:

  • Flickr (installable, but crashing) - it's on the list already
  • Twitter original app - installing through Yalp says it's split and one should give root rights.
  • Duolingo - same as Twitter

Then I always get messages that this or this app is using too much power. That's annoying. It also seems, the AlienDalvik Apps are always running in the background, even if I closed it. Any way to change that? I'm not one of those who needs to know all the time that I received a message. I only want to know, when I open the app, e.g. telegram. It was and is working on the xperia x, on the xa-2 it seems to be checking all the time.

Please feel free to edit and use this post. I'd be happy for any hints and advices.

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answered 2019-02-21 23:42:32 +0200

updated 2019-02-22 00:12:19 +0200

I am on XA2 single sim. Found theese android apps as working: - Google Translate - Instagram (no icon!) - CM browser - Chrome (no icon!) - Opera Browser (with a bad closing transition for tabs) - Waze (bad gps working) - ebay app - invision app (so slow, depending on project) - Stocard - Twitter (no icon)

And theese not working: - Wordpress - Google Keep

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answered 2019-02-23 10:59:45 +0200

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updated 2019-02-23 22:58:36 +0200

I never edited a wiki, and Im afraid I might mess things up; so... I guess someone should add that the microphone in android produces very bad quality and low volume recordings. Personally only tested this on WhatsApp so far, but I assume that's related to the overall Android support performance. Others noticed-Android related :

-Pressing Back button in applications is supposed to quit the apps completely, instead black covers appear and should be closed (again).

-Volume of Android sounds/apps is significantly low in comparison to sailfish's (always has been in the previous android version and never been rectified so I assume it will never be in this version either).

-Android apps missing notification sounds (only Whatsapp tested so far).

-When some app fail to install, sailfish's notification says that it was installed.

Something interesting I noticed which is related to WhatsApp background service being killed-it is already mentioned in the wiki that swipe closing it or hitting x from homescreen will terminate the service, however, after lots of testing using Crest app I found out that pressing the back button (and then closing the black cover mentioned previously) will close WhatsApp and its background service will remain running . Personally I like this option if Jolla decides to leave it that way since(if technically related) in this 8.1 version you will not remain appearing online indefinitely as opposed to the previous version (further testing needed though).

As for Sailfish itself sometimes and randomly, no reception is detected.(work around: switch off the sim in settings and then back on).

edit: structure error

XA2 Dual Sim / 3.0.1.14

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Same phone, same issues for me, also with telegram app plus, I noticed that if I type a message (both platform) and immediately start typing a new message, this new one will start with the last word I had written I know also that Android version is still in Beta, hopefully will be fixed soon

Fede_ ( 2019-02-23 19:16:11 +0200 )edit

Yes i have noticed the thing about last words.I think maybe its related to a bug in the predictive text input maybe?

babo ( 2019-02-23 21:26:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-02 10:57:07 +0200

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updated 2019-03-05 10:47:05 +0200

Tabbed browsing in various Android browsers (Chrome Chromium, Firefox, Opera) seems to every now and then stop working properly because of some unknown reason. All browsers seem to fail at the same time when that happens. Reboot helps.

EDIT: Actually what seems to happen when this happens is that in the tabs view if you are for example trying to press the X to close a tab, you need to press somewhat to the right of the button to make the wanted action happen. It's like the touch screen's reading goes a little bit off. Pressing right on the X jumps the tab in question downwards like you would had pressed the tab header instead.

Maliit keyboard on Android doesn't allow moving the cursor (and the text to be written) to another place on internet forums' writing boxes and such, but will continue writing to the previous point of text you were writing to. Pressing the screen outside the box to close the keyboard (and then opening it again) helps.

XA2 dual sim, Sailfish 3.0.1.14

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At least the Chromium-based browsers seem to really easily start using an offline version of a (forum) web page (from your own cache), and you can't even easily refresh yourself out of it.

The Android browsers do this minimize-maximaze thingy to their app window quite a lot. May or may not be tied to using google as your search engine choice.

If you're thinking switching to XA2 as your daily driver, and rely on Android browsers for your heavy interneting needs, I have to advice you to not to at this point of time.

edit: actually, does anyone know if Android apps doing the minimize-maximize thing (app immediately "closing" in their start-up to show the Sailfish app view, only to "open" up again within one second) is because of locating or some other malfunctioning feature that the Android app tries to use but fails momentarily?

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answered 2019-03-03 14:41:24 +0200

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updated 2019-03-03 18:54:44 +0200

XA2 dual sim / 3.0.1.14:

"a feature, not a bug:"

Android layer gives low battery notification for example at 15%. When clicking the announcement it opens the Android Settings "app" on its battery setting page. I can't find anywhere the setting to disable this perfectly needless Android notification annoyance (I can disable the vibe and 'click' sound upon touch from the Android settings which is nice). Does anyone know how to get rid of this and other unwanted Android-generated notifications?

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The camera is in comparison to android very bad on the xa2 ultra, no sound notifications of whatsapp but the most important is the battery, the wifi sucks very strong on the battery so that you do not even come through the day as it looks with deep sleep and the cpu gouvaneurs should be selectable for everyone to adapt

I do not want to miss wlan

fingerprint sensor

and the native apps because if I need to access android apps because there's no decent one, it's actually an alternate os over it

N1cetatoooo ( 2019-03-06 00:40:28 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-06 21:42:02 +0200

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My Android 8 compatible Bluetooth code does NOT work. He can load paired devices and as host i can not get a socket via RFComm.

Works for normal Android Devices without problem.

Added code

DC_BTp2p_Discover_.txt

SRVC_BlueTooth_.txt

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answered 2019-03-08 00:27:51 +0200

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updated 2019-03-29 01:03:40 +0200

Sony Xperia XA2 Dual Sim (H4493)

Phone call audio quality is very poor with noticeable of GSM buzz and 1980s class voice..

Call waiting handling.. incoming call killed the current call with massive distortion and both calls dropped...

Bluetooth carkit audio quality on calls is very bad with low audio quality and volume.

Bluetooth media streaming is poor with poor audio quality and frequent interrupts. No issue when using wired headph ones

To rule out issues with the hardware, i reflashed android and there were no issues with calls / bluetooth.

Back on Sailfish now and will keep exploring.


Update 28/03:

Reflashed using 17B binaries and everything has improved for me.

Call quality is perfect and Bluetooth is working like a charm.

Biggest bugbear is the proximity sensor but I've implemented the workaround to see how it goes.

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answered 2019-03-09 00:12:44 +0200

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@jakonator we miss the access to the android settings.
Is normally joined under sfos setting/application/android-app/parameter.
But nothing happen by tapping on it. and sometime appears uncontrolled by trying to open the parameter settings from the menu of the running app.

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answered 2019-03-12 21:01:51 +0200

Using the XA2 Ultra (Single Sim):

Android (AlienDalvik):

  • When stopping android support (manual/automatic restarting), the screen backlight turns off, but is still operational, allowing navigation within Sailfish, without being able to see anything
  • Although not strictly required, having google-play services would help, especially with apps that have google service requirements (GA Telematics)

Android (Apps):

  • Chrome is in a partially working state. While it operates normally, when opening new tabs, it will drop you to the home screen, and back into chrome.
  • With all android apps, sometimes when receiving notifications, my phone doesn't vibrate or ping

Sailfish OS:

  • During a call, the screen backlight will turn off, and until the call is ended by the remote end, this remains the case, even after pressing the power button, the screen will flash on, and then off.

I may add to this, but overall for not being a release of Sailfish on the XA2, still going strong for me.

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answered 2019-03-13 22:29:53 +0200

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Signal on Xa2 dual Sim Ultra doesn't work. Messages can be received but can't be send.

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After the same experiences with Signal I switched over to the native signal-Client whisperfish, which so far is working without Problems! I use Version 05.1-0 on a xa2 single sim, can be found a.o. here: https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish/releases

voilier ( 2019-03-20 17:51:34 +0200 )edit

Nice that it works for you! But as it states " WARNING - DO NOT USE THIS CLIENT Unfortunately I am no longer able to maintain this project and can not recommend anyone continue using Whisperfish" at the top at the project I'm a bit hesitant.. I rather use other communication channels (and could still use the Jolla1 till my Xa2 works well with sailfish) for less secure conversations

Will-Do ( 2019-03-23 15:46:51 +0200 )edit
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